Why does not people post?

[Mowalski]

Though you just said you don't have any intention to share your knowledge. So why would other people explain anything?

Yes i wrote i wont give it for free but if you open an extra subboard where we can tell you what to upgrade and we will be the beta testers i'm willing to share my knowledge like most of  the pros cause it would be a good deal.

You are asking me how to make money, and not a buck a day.. Do you think that is what a software customer support should do?

You wrote just make blogs with bs and start making money thats so simple.But as you see for  many/most of your clients its not so simple..... so you should change the word simpel or have a bombastic support explaining how it works and not only using the words its possible.

I recently bought a newletter manager and autoresponder, for email marketing. The site say among other things that email marketing is a very profitable business.. Do you think they should now teach me how to build a list and make money from it?!

Sorry but bs and this scripts are totally diffrent.The tools you bought are doing what you want from them without any other tools.
BS is creating blogs but with this blogs you wont earn anything if you dont ad other tools which dont have anything to do with BS.And here is the big diffrence.You have to modify BS a lot to get good results so you have to be good informed about technical stuff.But at your mailprogram its just enough to add the emails, text and some function for the spamfiler and press the button send.Thats the big diffrence.

Ok if you wont any help to get way better result with your scripts its your choice but the only think i can say like many people do who have knowledge about real internet marketing (10k$+) that your scripts ****s(are not really up to date).Only the content is worth something the rest is programed in the wrong direction cause it looks for me like you guys dont have knowledge how to get high ranked without work, only with tools......

but as i said ITS YOUR CHOCE

[Omar]

BS is also doing what you want from it, as long as you know what you want.
IS as simple as we said: BS makes lot of blogs, automatically post it, ping it, manage links and so on.. If you need that, it will deliver it. You don't need other tools to do it. If you want to put it in some strategy that involve other tools, that is another story.

You also don't have to modify anything in the script, and you can't even do that because is all encrypted. What you can do is just edit templates and that does not require any great technical skills, only some basic html knowledge.

If you don't like it, is your opinion. I just got an email though, with a contrary opinion.

[...]Yes the guy who just sent you an email about not knowing about
blogsolution, AND THEN went out and bought the lot - rss2blog really is crap
in comparison!

And i'd appreciate if you will not make comments about our knowledge. I could say too that if you think BS template editing is a great technical task you don't really know much about how a script should be programmed.

[Mowalski]

sorry dude but your are always changing my words into your explaination.
That you dont have to change stuff directly at BS its clear but you need to modify tons of stuff to get it work.BS is making only blogs but not as you said wrote money.
If i need only many sites/blogs i also could use a doorwaypage generator and would have the same like with BS .
I dont understand you why u dont make updates which will make all automatycalliy so people dont have to write their own scripts and have to change a lot of stuff at the blogs to get high listed.It could be all done by BS by pressing just 1 button if you would add this tools to BS.

But as i said before i dont think you want any changes and even dont know how to make mass traffic or even have a proof that one of your blogs is making some k $ a month.....

And if you want me to change my mind just tell me how i can earn money just using BS and all the other scripts you have .......and plz try once to answer this question which already asked over a hundred users here

Thx

[Mowalski]

It's easy to use, extremely effective and gives you EVERYTHING you need to make a great income online.  The pieces of the puzzle are in place.  The systems are tested.  BlogSolution is ready to roll.   All it takes, is you...

thats on your mainpage and you wrote yourself EVERYTHING big everything but not the other tools they need to make good money

BlogSolution provides thousands and thousands of one way links.
Point these links at any site you want.  Do you think tens of thousands of well indexed, one way blog links can help your sites?  We do.

you do i think google will count this as spam so many links from a single IP....or you maybe mean one single IP per blog ???but if yes why do i need BS and dont make myself a single link to my site it would be the same

BlogSolution is extremely easy to use.
Every blog is managed from one easy interface - we have crafted BlogSolution so that literally ANYONE (at any experience level) can use it.  Video tutorials, "fail safe" personal support, help article database, built-in hint system and a kickin' user forum are at your disposal.

you wrote at any experience level     ........looks wrong for me


AND NOW VERY IMPORTANT   (from your mainpage)

[COLOR="Red"]BlogSolution is all you need.
Other blog and ping programs require various outside software to run effectively.  This software needs that tool.  This tool needs this other program.  Not BlogSolution.  We're stand alone - you need nothing else to be successful.[/COLOR]

think about it

[Omar]

You extracted few sentence from the site and made some comments. You skipped the part where we also say that nothing comes without work, that you need some prior knowledge to be able to run it properly and so on.

BS is all you need refers to blog creation, update, and so on. With any similar tool, like rss2blog, beside the posting script, that is rss2blog, you also need a wordpress auto installer, that cost additional money.

Anyway, I don't have time to make a site or tool analysis with you here. Sorry but i already got bored with this debate. And if you actually compare BS with a doorway generator.. then really.. i don't have anything else to say.

[nellygb]

Hi everyone

I have been watching this topic, as know doubt others have, with keen interest and baited breath waiting for something good to come of it.

Lots of posts+lots of interest (should)=solutions/answers

the whole concept of message boards I thought especially those set up as a form of product support.....but where has this topic got us?

Anyway, I don't have time to make a site or tool analysis with you here. Sorry but i already got bored with this debate. And if you actually compare BS with a doorway generator.. then really.. i don't have anything else to say.

Omar I have the utmost respect for the great work you do both with your developements and wonderfull customer/product support and I can in some ways understand your lack of patience on this subject but please dont take all adverse comments as an attack on either yourself or your projects.

I have contacted you on a number of occassions and you have always responded with civility no matter how dumb my questions and to this point all support has been perfect. So thats that matter resolved because I have found NO bad reports on PRODUCT SUPPORT & CUSTOMER SERVICE period.
If anyone can point me to one I will retract that last statement.

So in my opinion you rank up there Omar....but and here's the kicker

On a number of occasions you do come across as very defensive/obstructive/evasive when your software is put under the microscope or compared to others (to be fair so does Scott when I have contacted him).  No need.

We are all aware other software is available but then we must all by now realise no one piece or suite of software is going to answer all our prayers or problems (again if I'm wrong on this one I need to know but trust me on this I am correct;o) so there lies the problem.

Mowalski (along with others) has really only pointed out the inaccuracies in the sales pitch and his opinion that he would like a more indepth explaination of how you arrived at the decision to include the claims in your sales bumph.
Fair question I think. This is not show me the money its teach a man to fish.

At this point I must say I think Mowalski (and others) have just mistaken customer/product support with something else that has never been hinted at or promised.

Now where do I stand. I think ( not sitting on the fence here but just an observation on what always without fail happens when a number of people discuss a subject ) there are points to be taken from all sides.

Omar/Scott if your software needs other apps to assist in your claims the just say so. Simple as. I think they do and I hope I use them.

Customers/Product Supporters cut these guys a little slack. I want them to develop these tools to the max so we all benefit and while they are answering emails/Pm's/forum posts then they are not working on the software. AND why the secrets if you have a way to improve the software post it and let them work on it. And if we all want a closed forum just get one up and work with the guys to find a way to keep it to purchasers of the products only as this would benefit all parties.

Omar I will post again I promise but in the mean time chill cause in my eyes your the dogs dangly bits.

Bit all over the place but I am in a hurry

Look no signiture (criminal waste of an opportunity)

nellygb

[CloakAndDagger]

I think the reason is there is nothing here really to come to forum for
I visit once in a while ,and forum seem to be against any free exchange of ideas
and the tech of usage compared to some other products ....


Also it to centered to much around only your products and nothing else ...

Second there nothing to learn here , I mean if you had some inside
points or expert advice to use tools to success better.
On going ebook type thread thing some real input to use product.Ideas to improve product that to me rarely is listened too.
Take the wordpress template idea man it really lacks because it's only good
for some few inside blog page templates but cannot be used on main page ?
Since BS4 can convert WP why not allow convert main templates too ??
It would still be a bs4 product because bs4 does things WP does not .


Third reply to post take to long ...

How about open different threads unrelated to the tool.
like blackhat thread whitehat thread ...

Here's a great idea offer a thread on ideas on product creation and if we like your idea we will
share profits ....

[Omar]

Take the wordpress template idea man it really lacks because it's only good
for some few inside blog page templates but cannot be used on main page ?
Since BS4 can convert WP why not allow convert main templates too ??

Sorry man, but i have to not fully agree here. Is not about few blogs here, is about 1000s blogs.

On each  domain you have just one main index, while you have 100's or even 1000's blogs. What would you rather want to have done, one main index or 1000 blog templates?

Main index template is just one file, that with a little work and minimum html skills can be created from any other blog index templates, with bit of changes.. Anyway, domain root template would be possible to be done, but that will complicate things a bit, and then we get to other issues, when some people complain that the software is can only be used by programmers.

[Omar]

Nellygb, I am chil. But really, i have a dozen emails with different questions, that i'd want to answer rather then get sidetracked in an unproductive argue.

I am sorry if I sounded defensive or evasive at any moment. The truth is this: Scott is not a technical guy, i am not a native english speaker. I may have problems sometime in expressing my thoughts. But even if i wouldn't, is very hard for me to answer when i am ased "How does you X tool compared to Y tool". It is pretty simple:  i never used some of those tools that i am asked to compare with. Many of them has no forums, no public videos or tutorials, all what is public is the sales page. I can't make a decent comparision in this situation, not to speak about put under microscope.

What our site claims (and we speak about BS here) is that you don't need any other tool beside BS to create and update a blog network. That means create blogs, update, ping, etc... If some other tools can be used in addition, well.. I am sure it can. There are many tools doing many useful things. But they come as helping tools, not a must to own in order to create a blog network. That is what i tried to say when gave the rss2blog example.

As about claims in testimonials (like PR6 thing), i am sorry, but can't really explain that. There is a guy that was pretty active on the forum a while ago (his name is Marc) that at one moment after used BS for a while, said "look, i got PR6 on my domain". He gave some hints on how he did it, even posted on forum. But i can't force him to explain anything in depth. When we get a testimonial, we check to see if is true, as much as possible (can't ask a guy for his affiliate accounts to check his sales claims, though we rarely list such testimonials). And at the moment of that testimonial, it was surely real. We can't really do more then that.

[Mowalski]

Omar i'm willing to share my knowledge how to get this pr6 and also how to make good money with this tools.The only i wants is to be the betatester.Others pros will confirm for sure.

Why dont you open an extra board where we can say how we use BS and what we need to get best results and you guys are updating your tools in this direction.You would get for sure a way more better tool to make money by using automatically tools from halfgain and we would have tools we got all integrated and dont need to look for other scripts/tools or even have to hire programmers for small changes....

Its just that you have decide that you would like to update your scripts with us for our needs.Till now we cant see that you will do any new update we really need only some new ideas you got....ask us what we need and we will answer if you will take us as betatesters.


and as i said several times before its not against you....i'm doing that cause i want to make more money too

[Omar]

Why does it need an extra board? Isn't this one good enough? I don't see why would be anything a secret, afterall, after betatests it will all be public.

Updates where done per users requirements.. some people wanted youtube support, it was added, some wanted batch update to consider groups too and not only order of blogs, it was done... this is just the last two coming to my mind..

I don't really know what you want, as far as i remember, you didn't asked any updates. And surely wasn't some massive request for a feature or change that was ignored (as you speak plural "we need", "our needs", "we can't see", etc.. )

So, who is "we" and what you need? If there is some group of people that i don't know about and badly need some updates.. feel free to ask.. so far i got no emails, PMs, public requests or anything specifically.. just vague comments..

I am not against anyone and surely not against updates but before to be done, needs to be asked.. and preferable not just by only one man, although, that can be also be done if is something really useful..

[SEO Agent]

Hmm.. interesting ideeas.. though i am not sure i want to stir anything.. i just onder why 1000+ people registered if they had nothing to say.. ONly about 100 where active..

what happens Omar, is people have registered when they were either thinking of buying or just bought one of Half Again's Software Products. They use it, find something better and move on.

Sometimes , they get it and spend their time marketing or building sites and have no need to post here. Then there are the macro or paradigm shifts which occur.

The largest to hit your software products have been the following in the past two years:

1. Free Word Press Blogs with automated installs on so many Fantastico and C-Panel Interfaces.
2. There is no need to create dedicated servers with BS3. Social Bookmarking has taken over for "follow" backlinking.
3. Most people have no idea how to create templates of education in web design, css, php, ect. They want it all done for them with automated push button technologies and services.
4.They want it for free (Number 3).
5. People with their own fears and hesitations still have no idea about content creation.
6. Alot of people still have no idea about search engine optimization.
7. Most will try your software, fail and move on. Posting has very little to do with it. Creating blog farms isn't even necessary anymore. Especially since in 2007 Google brought in LSI. They promote sites with random chaos.Meaning a more human factor through analyzing pure seo errors than anything else.

Until people understand how SE's work, they fail from the start, building "perfect" blog farms. Google analyzes the design and bans them. People than are to embarrassed to post here, after making these mistakes. And are most likely too busy to learn the fundamentals of seo.

So they just move on to something else, or wait to hear some other message blowing in the wind. For myself, I have stuck to seo and I use other automated methods which give me sufficient backlinks to optimize under most keyword markets. And I use automated software to research around 3,000 keyword markets each day. I discover around 500 new markets out of this each day.

8. There are just so many places to post on blogs, all with C-Class IPs and great PR, that is has not been necessary to create any blog farms. Then there is the issue of content generation. Last year, I discovered a much more simplified approach and one where I was able to create perfect articles.

Even though your content generator software will do the same, mine only requires 3 tags or characters to use. It works much faster, and I only paid for it once.

Then there is rss evolution. This is a great website builder. But again, people want to be able to use the power of blogs. WP is an instant install, has more easy to use plug-ins and is free. People want sites they can have visitors comment on.  Of course both can be part of the same solution. But the reasons people donot post come down to four points:

1. I don't need any help or anymore help.
2. I'm not using this software anymore and have found something better for various reasons.
3. I do not have the technical knowledge and confidence to pull this off myself.
4. I don't want anyone to know I use this software for various reasons.

I hope this thread has given you some ideas about what people do not post. They are all reasonable reasons and have very little to do with your current forum.

But it was a nice link baiting and content generation post here to create some interest perhaps.

From my stand point Omar, all I ever needed was one CMS Platform, some very good keyword and seo research data, and I always know what I have to do to build content and backlinks and where to build them.

[Omar]

Well Robert, some what you say makes sense but i wasn't thining to an industry insight reasons for my question (which got sidetracked and answers unrelated with what i initially asked)

I can't really agree with your main idea "people have registered when they were either thinking of buying or just bought one of Half Again's Software Products. They use it, find something better and move on"

Even if they found somehting better or just gave up, that took a while, and supposely was after joined the forum, either if bought anything or not. Why join a forum, either if you bought somehting or just thought to do it but never post anything?! They could read the forum without register.

I was not speaking about spammers, either post spam or profile spam, but those accounts that looks like real people, with no post ever nor any links in their profile. There are almost 8000 registred users now and about 10% active. Even if admin 50% comment or profile are spammers, why did the rest joined ?! Unless there is some other kind of forum spam that i am not aware of

[pete]

It’s probably a simple answer like it’s free to join
Some forums have a member’s only section
People downloaded the demo could not get it working and looking for info
Or looking for the magic bullet area

[flashdiva]

I agree with Pete and 'magic bullet.' I've been in this for years. Macromedia commando  ... but I confess that I am fair game to excellent sales pages. I read and re-read all the pages for this suite of tools. Coming with my background, and over 7 years of small but successful online business, I do not believe everything I read. But when I find myself believing, I then research things, cogitate. I am finding that there is a TON of work involved with this suite... on the par with anything WELL DONE in IM. The Half Again sales pages, with the testimonials.... some of this, MUCH of this sounds so 'instant gratification.' The ease, the speed, the 'build 4000 sites in a nano second. Well. I figured that may be true (speed, not 4000/nanosecond), but there are those who've worked with this for two years, with betas... and know much more than I do about these specific tools.

After working huge hours over a span of two weeks, with SS.... I can honestly say a few things. This was a son of a gun! What is smart about smarty, first of all? Well probably it is the power under the hood... but WOW, to come up to any kind of speed or understanding.

My first store is now up. I am very excited. The AHA moment I had, about 3 nights ago, sitting back in my chair and going WOW, the power!

But I think a lot of your visitors truly are looking for the 'magic' and instant millionnaire thing. The sales pages profoundly express the power of the tools. But they truly do come across with an incorrect message, for any Newbie looking to find just that. Again... this is a TON of work. It is a whole new learning curve. It is taking the HTML world and diving off the deep board, into dbase driven webbing. Lots of folks are not prepared for this.

I think Omar is right... many come to test drive, even buy. But how many in percentages of humanity, really have that aggressive, persistent cell? I think overall, it is quite low. I believe these tools are a road map to success. But that is true of any 'mentor' you glue to, providing it truly is a good mentor and/or tool. It is the persistence that leads to success. Those that leave here after lurking and not finding instant anything.... will lurk and leave, going forward.