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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2006, 20:58 »

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TS - What would be the advantage of your service over something like an slhost vps?  On the surface, it looks like they offer twice the space and bandwidth, at half the price, together with service that can't be beat. Am I missing something?

I've got over a dozen BS domains on there now (thousands of blogs), plus thousands of other sites, blogs, and misc stuff. And I'm at the level 1, which is something like $270 per year. I've never had issues with over-taxing the server.

I'm not trying to dis your service, merely trying to understand your offer better.


Which plan are you iusing for slhost? thx
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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2006, 21:11 »

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If i could figure out how to delete the second post i would...:confused:


I deleted it Wink
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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2006, 02:40 »

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Right now I'm on the level 1. Soon to move to level 2. I've got thousands of blogs (TBS, VI, WP) on there, and over a thousand sites on it. The disk is about 40% full, and bandwidth is getting there, too. TBS blogs take up a lot of bandwidth, which is a good thing, since they're getting spidered like crazy!
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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2006, 02:41 »

hi david,

are the ip's given with your slhost.com package
come with different class c's?

thanks.
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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2006, 14:07 »

Blue -

When I ordered my vps, I added a half dozen additional IP's and requested they all be on different c-blocks, and they are. I'm not sure how many c-blocks slhost has available, but they are opening another data center, and I know they're getting more. I have a lot of other IP's elsewhere, and don't need more from slhost yet, so I haven't asked them how many they have.

That's a good question to ask any host though, before you sign up.
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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2006, 15:35 »

As many of you know here, from the PMs I've been getting...

I'm a BIG fan of SL Host myself.  I've found them to have excellent support and believe me, I needed it when I first started as there is a learning curve for VPS if you've only used shared/reseller hosting.

In fact, I just got my second account with them about 10 days ago... wanted to catch it before the 50% off for life deal ends.  It's important to have good, robust hosting for running the Blog Solution, IMO.

I also have accounts with HostGator, Reseller Zoom, 3rd Sphere, and 1 and 1 which I will continue with...  great for portal, hybrid, and content sites.  In fact, I might suggest trying a B3 Reseller Zoom account for the financially challenged.  But even that is expensive when you consider the annual price of SL Host's annual plans currently.

Deb

PS.  Yesterday morning I installed a new BS blog with 340 keywords to a brand new domain. 6 hours later the SE spiders 'n bots had chewed up 58 MB of bandwidth. This morning, close to 200 MEGABYTES - KOWABUNGA Dudes and Dudettes :p :eek:
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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2006, 15:37 »

Dave,

When I inquired about different c block they told me that the have only 2 class C pools to pull from.  Is this right?
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« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2006, 16:13 »

If you go by the strict definition of class-c, where the first octet is between 192 and 223, I have these from slhost:

207.210.221.nnn
207.210.222.nnn
207.210.217.nnn
207.210.241.nnn

I also have these two class-a's:

65.99.194.nnn
65.99.196.nnn

So I know they have at least six uniques. It's possible that some of these are now filled, that's why they only have two left??

I also heard they just opend a new data center,so they should have more. But if they can only give two uniques, they'll lose a lot of BH business. I would ask them to double-check that, especially with the new data center. I know they are growing gangbusters, they are basically the top-rated host right now no matter who you ask.
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« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2006, 04:06 »

I asked about the c class, and they said the same thing. You can have 2 for a VPS account.
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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2006, 04:21 »

Sorry for the late response. I forgot to subscribe to this thread.

 I am glad to hear there are other hosts out there are working out for some of you.

 Quite frankly, My BS server is almost full. Room for only a few more. Most users are current customers of my other packages. That means everything to me when a user has enough faith in our opertion to have multiple accounts, even when we cost more.

  If the demand is there Ill build another one. They are Dell Poweredge 1850 375 gig 10K scsi, Dual 3.4 XEON, and up to 12 gigs of RAM and 8 gigs of swap.

 My hosting company is built around US, I am a user too so I help my customers with problems or questions about "What to do" if they need it.

 We currently have 20+ Unique Class C's and we make them available for every server not just a few. Its not hard to bind IPs to a server if you know what you are doing.

  As far as space and bandwith go, no one has ever even come close to using what we offer, when it becomes a problem for legit apps or posts then we will simply increase it. Whatever is fair. I dont just give out more for the simple fact people might start backing up ther hard drive to it. I don't think we really need that. You should use your space for what you are doing with hosting on the server.

 I build servers around the app, so its set up to handle that app and its users and that's all. You can get a cheap little host if you need space for something other than hosting sites.

 I cater to the power users, I help them get what they are looking for.
I not want to say everything is unlimted.."until you actaully starting using that way and then we just kick you off". They do this just to get more sales and hope no one pushes the limits.

 I am a power user and I ran across my problems with the other host's last year so I built this for me initally but others wanted in on it so i kept building more and more servers and brought in more pipes and ips.

 We are not the cheapest and never will be I do not want thousands of users, I want serious users, who I can get to know, help and also learn from. Therfore, my price point is where it is.

 VPS's are good for this app, provided you get at least 10 Class C's, without that, you can't put links to one site across all your BS installations. Otherwise, the value of the link will not last.

 Also, you better harden that box good, hackers and spammers are going to find you eventually.

 I hope everyone is seeing those spiders like I am , wahoo!

-Ts
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« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2006, 04:35 »

hi ts,
with your bs package, can i also stick other sites in there,
say some minisites, or am i restricted to bs sites ... not
quite sure how that works.

appreciate the discount offer.
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« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2006, 05:02 »

Blue,

 BS hosting is really for BS hosting only, you get 10 or 15 domains. Now you can do what you want but you are best advised to use it for BS only.

 My reasoning is this.  I do not allow BS or other power apps on the SEO Network, this is because a powerful app can be misused and topple the server, and with that, all your money sites. We do not want that.

 Now, if we isolate the BS server and if it gets toppled, we only lose blogs and not money sites.

 Just a side not, if you are trying to strictly make money with blogs and adsense you are missing the boat a little bit.

 I try to say this whever I can on this forum.

Never put adsense on your blogs that are promoting other money sites with the same adsesne code. DO not think for one minute that G can't tell every domain that your code is on. They can read javascript if they want to.

 If you want to monetize your blog and give backlinks to adsesne sites. Then use amazon or ebay. I use blgos for divertign spiders and getting backlinks. the minimal human traffic you get is nto worth the hassle.

 Now don't get me wrong, If I have a blog that is on fire with human visitors then you bet ill get something to moneitze it, if adsesne, its a DIFFERENT code than money sites.  Be smart, stay at Holiday Inn Express Smiley)

-Ts
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« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2006, 12:50 »

The other thing that works well for blog farm setups, is to use cheap shared hosting accounts. I'm using some of the old shared accounts I got when I first started building sites. These work perfect for blogs. I've got accounts on GoDaddy, HostExcellence and Hostgator that I use for WP blogs. Some of these accounts will limit or cut off scripts you run for posting, though. I run my RSS To Blog and SBB crons on a different host to post to these shared accounts, because they won't allow it.

It is a good way to use up that old hosting that you grow out of!
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« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2006, 17:46 »

Blue, you don't really want to mix it up on the same server/account with BS.

Best to keep bs on their own account, either like David suggests using cheap shared resellers, or like TS with VPS or whatever his plan is.

I tried vps and shared, and honestly, accpet for the ded IP's you get included with vps, and a little more configuration flexibility, there really is no noticable difference. I consider bs domains as cookie cutter spam, go the cheapest way Smiley

Omar suggested using various cheap resellers a while ago and I couldn't agree more. For $7 to $10 per account, you can put 3 to 5 bs domains on them.

To put other projects on those accounts isn't the best idea. BS will put a strain on your account, why add more to it?

The very best idea is to spread them out! I personally would use as many different resellers as possible!
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« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2006, 02:37 »

is there still hope for us who're hosted at dreamhost?
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